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Near/Far is killing me.
#21
AFAIK, I've asked about it 11 times. Wink For my 2c, it would seem to me it's an essential part of an outdoor wireless system. I had stopped asking about it, since the questions went unanswered, which I took to mean it was a question that shouldn't be asked.

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php...#post35369
http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php...#post29369
http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php...=rts%2Fcts
http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php...#post35788

Prior to that, when I asked about it, it was said that it would be in there...
http://forums.star-os.com/newreply.php?d...=1&p=68135
http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php...#post23750
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#22
This thread, and other discussion regarding RTS / CTS dates back to 2005 / 2006. There has been no demand for it in recent years, so we have put our efforts into other areas.
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#23
OK. I'm just letting you know how I feel about it. I want to make it clear that I am a fan of you guys and that I know you've got a real difficult workload and are doing a great job of it. Smile I'm not ragging on you here in any way, just letting you know how I feel, OK? Smile

I have asked about RTS/CTS a number of times. I do think it's an 100% essential, fundamental requirement of an outdoor network. The questions go unanswered, and I understood that to mean that I should stop asking. As you know, we have been told that asking the same question too many times will release the hounds of hell. People have to behave in the forums like they are walking on eggshells sometimes.

You are telling me that you thought that there was no interest in that feature - I'm just letting you know that I have always thought it was 100% critically essential. If you didn't know that, it's because you weren't listening, or because I wasn't talking loudly enough, and not because there wasn't an interest in the feature. I don't mean that to sound rude at all, I'm just saying that I do believe that RTS/CTS is a fundamentially essential requirement, and that me communicating that to you has broken somewhere.

So, again - I'm a fan. Smile I'm not trying to 'stir up trouble' or spread fud or anything negative.
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#24
Not to worry, I have added the feature to my todo list.
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#25
I too thought RTS/CTS was an essential part of any carrier class outdoor network that needs to scale. Would this be one of those enhancements Lonnie was talking about to tweak our all Star networks that would make everyone only want to use StarOS clients? I hope so.

All the gear I have used for the past 10 years has always had RTS/CTS and I was a little shocked when I found out StarOS did not use RTS/CTS as part of the core wireless driver. But then again trying to code to 802.11 compatibility would make this unusable.

I think this is one of those major performance enhancements that anyone would want in their all StarOS network.
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#26
RTS/Frag has had it's uses in the past, when we were talking 802.11, and 802.11b networks, however with the movement towards OFDM, the usefulness degraded, as the benefits were just not there any longer especially with the improvements in the hardware and radio chipsets used.

With this said, if you are in an extremely noisy environment that cannot push any data at all without falling on it's face, then there is a place where RTS & Fragmentation thresholds would come in handy, to break up packets, giving them a better chance to be delivered. This is not a feature you want enabled everywhere as it will reduce your PPS capability & performance, but it is handy when you truly need it.
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#27
tony Wrote:Not to worry, I have added the feature to my todo list.
Great. Smile
tony Wrote:With this said, if you are in an extremely noisy environment that cannot push any data at all without falling on it's face, then there is a place where RTS & Fragmentation thresholds would come in handy, to break up packets, giving them a better chance to be delivered. This is not a feature you want enabled everywhere as it will reduce your PPS capability & performance, but it is handy when you truly need it.
I agree totally. When we had FRAG in the past, there certaily was customers that would be having problems - we'd set their FRAG to 768 and they'd start working perfectly again. HOWEVER, the way we looked at it, that customer was now using twice the air time of a 'working' customer. We were fudging it to make it work and save a truck roll, but at the expense of 1/2ing our network capacity. It was great as an additional tool, but one wouldn't want to have every marginal customer out there with FRAG turned down to 256byte packets all over the place. Smile
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